I’ve been looking at what
the Australians of Stalag Luft III went through during interrogation, and how they
responded. Not everyone had a bad time of it, but a good many did, and here are
the recollections of just a few.
The
Luftwaffe took over the Army’s Offiziersdurchgangslager (officers’
through camp) at Oberursel in December 1939 and renamed it Durchgangslager der Luftwaffe (through camp of the Air Force).
Located just northwest of Frankfurt, one part of the complex served as the Luftwaffe’s main transit camp and the
other became the Luftwaffe’s main intelligence gathering centre. The
intelligence and transit sections were separated in September 1943; the
intelligence staff remained at Oberursel but the transit camp was relocated to
Frankfurt, near the railway station. That was destroyed in a raid in March 1944
and a camp was constructed at Wetzlar, about 30 miles north of Frankfurt.
Interrogations continued to be carried out at Oberursel. The entire facility soon
became known simply as Dulag Luft and, despite a number of name changes over
the years, and regardless of location, continued to be referred to as Dulag
Luft.
Germany’s attitude to interrogation was organised. Within
weeks of the beginning of the war, the Germans recognised that prisoners of war
would be good sources of information about British morale, war-readiness, and military
strength and matériel.
Army prisoners, however, were usually taken in large groups either by battle
winners, or as a consequence of surrender. Any interrogation was usually
carried out close to the battlefield and was at best cursory. Assiduous and
wide-ranging intelligence gathering and assessment became the province of the Luftwaffe which recognised that aircrew would
be great assets in the intelligence war. Accordingly, a dedicated and ‘sophisticated
sifting centre’ was co-located with the Dulag Luft transit camp and all aircrew
captured in German held territory passed through it before transferring to
permanent camps.
Dulag Luft evolved into a professionally-run
organisation where intelligence gathering was developed to a fine art. By
intensively interrogating new arrivals, scrutinising documents and equipment
carried by the airmen, and examining crashed aircraft, interrogators developed
a detailed knowledge of allied air operations. It was acknowledged as the most
efficient interrogation facility of the war and boasted an extensive archive
which included press clippings, photographs, maps, and squadron histories, and comprehensive
lists of squadron personnel. More than one man was shocked by the level of
detail accumulated by the interrogators.
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The
period immediately after capture is acknowledged as one of the most physical
and trying phases of the entire captivity continuum. Formal interrogation,
which occurred within days of apprehension was, for many, the worst experience
since their last battle. Recognising that prisoners still suffering the shock
of captivity would more easily succumb to the pressure of interrogation, new
captives were whisked to preliminary detention for questioning by local
military personnel before they were almost as quickly ferried to Frankfurt.
Some were humiliated by the local populace en route. Some had made abortive
escape attempts while in transit and their confidence was at a low ebb. Once
they arrived at Dulag Luft, every aspect of their confinement in the cooler—the
prisoner name for detention cells both at Dulag Luft and permanent camps—was
designed to create psychological pressure, thus breaking down any resistance to
interrogation.
The Dulag Luft interrogators spoke perfect English and
were professional. They developed sophisticated, insidious interrogation
techniques which included ‘softening up’, repetitive questioning, wheedling
details bit by bit, and alternately adopting friendly and menacing styles. They
also deployed food and sensory deprivation, varying degrees of torture, and took
advantage of continuing shock.
Rooms were kept in darkness for extended periods and
the walls were so thick the airmen could not orientate themselves to the
outside world. Before they were consigned to solitary confinement in a small
cell with few amenities, new arrivals were stripped of their belts, boots and
uniform, underwent a complete—and in Ronald ‘Ronnie’ Baines’ recollection,
‘embarrassing’—body search and were x-rayed. While some items were returned,
Article 5 of the Geneva Convention stated that ‘identity tokens, badges of
rank, decorations and articles of value may not be taken from prisoners’. Personal items (other than weapons) were eventually returned. Uniforms, however, were
not. In Norman ‘Bill’ Amos’ case, he was issued with an ill-fitting pair of
riding pants and a woolly singlet and a pair of wooden clogs.
Ronald Baines
Norman ‘Bill’ Amos
There were many significant examples of
inhumane treatment at Dulag Luft including isolation, discomfort, physical and
sensory deprivation and varying degrees of torture. Indeed, according to one commandant,
‘no amount of solitary confinement, privation and psychological blackmail was
considered excessive’. It was a disturbing time and Richard ‘Dick’ Winn, for one,
alternated between despondency and near panic and hope. ‘These mood swings were
very frequent.’ Compounding their distress, the airmen were placed on harsh
rations. It did not appear to matter that such treatment contravened the Geneva
Convention.
Richard ‘Dick’ Winn
In his diary, George Archer recorded the three
days he spent in the Dulag Luft cells. He briefly noted the conditions of his
accommodation and treatment. ‘In cooler. Bloody awful.
Nothing to do but sleep.’ The next day, he was ‘still in cooler, very hot. No
windows open. No books or shaving. Sleeping is the only saviour. Five dirty
spuds and soup for dinner. Bread and herb tea. B. and tea.’
George Archer. Courtesy of David Archer
Archer’s contemporary diary, jotted into a small
pocket notebook, had little space for elaboration. Those compiling late-life
accounts had more scope, and decades’ reflection to record the more challenging
physical and psychological aspects of this phase of captivity. ‘The room in which I was placed was unlit, virtually
soundproof, overheated and hence enervating’, reminisced Alex Arnel. Bruce Lumsden,
Bill Amos and Dick Winn recalled alternating hot and cold in the cells where
any sleep was intermittent. Kenneth
Gaulton sweltered ‘with all the heat turned up in the middle of summer; it was
pretty uncomfortable’, and Ken Todd included in his wartime log book a pencil
drawing of his cell annotated ‘heaters on in summer, off in winter’. Lumsden
began to realise that this contravention of the Geneva Convention was ‘another
part of the game of prisoner harassment’. Knowing this did nothing to alleviate
Lumsden’s ‘sense of mingled rage and humiliation’.
Alex Arnel. Courtesy of Alec Arnel
Bruce Lumsden
Kenneth Gaulton
http://australiansatwarfilmarchive.unsw.edu.au/archive/1276-kenneth-gaulton
Ken Todd’s cell. Courtesy of Peter Todd
Once in the interrogation cell, polite,
seemingly friendly and courteous questioners tried to coerce with cigarettes,
bonhomie and, in the case of Alex
Arnel, morning tea of scones, honey and coffee and admiration of the Spitfire. Alex
Kerr, who had come to Dulag Luft after many months in hospital, recalled that
he too had received ‘soft treatment’, possibly because, he speculated, any
information he might have would be out of date. When the soft touch, deployed
by ‘gushingly polite’ interrogators failed, the Germans again contravened
the Geneva Convention.
Alex Kerr
http://australiansatwarfilmarchive.unsw.edu.au/archive/1489-alexander-kerr
Arnel was threatened with being handed over to
townsfolk who had been subjected to propaganda about the allied terrorfliegers (terror flyers) who had
subjected them to frequent bombing raids. ‘What do you think would happen?’,
the interrogator demanded of Arnel. When
that failed to elicit a response, Arnel heard his neighbour being removed from
his cell, then shouts and a volley of rifle fire. ‘I tried to convince myself
that this was just another psychological pressure to get us to “cooperate” but
nagging doubts remained.’ Douglas McLeod was
deliberately lied to in order to weaken his defence. He was told that ‘3
members of my crew had been killed’. As
a Jew, Cy Borsht suffered physical as well as psychological assaults. His
interrogator hit him on the back of the head, lightly at first and then harder
and harder. Finally, in the face of Borsht’s continued resistance to questioning,
he ‘played the Jew card with me’, threatening to hand him over to the Gestapo. ‘The
information he was after was not important, really. He was making an issue of
it’, Borsht recalled 71 years later. ‘He was making a big fella of himself.’
Cyril Borsht
Douglas McLeod
Kenneth Gaulton later claimed that the only
time he was deliberately tortured was during his encounter with the
interrogators. Doug Hutchinson was
also tortured. Although he was admitted to nearby Hohemark clinic for shrapnel
wounds to elbow, legs and body, and a piece shot from his left foot, he was
denied treatment for three weeks. He was on his back during interrogation. ‘I couldn’t move very much, I had a leg that was
aching like hell. … I had bits and pieces off all over me, and I was starting
to feel sore. And I suppose there was a certain reaction catching up with me,
from the crash.’ Despite pain and discomforted, Hutchinson he resisted
questioning. His interrogator then aggravated his foot wound. While Charles
Lark, who had been seriously injured during his last operation and had had an
eye removed before being transported to Dulag Luft, did not mention deliberate
torture, he requested medical attention on a number of occasions and was
refused.
Douglas Hutchinson. Courtesy of Robert Douglas Hutchinson
Charles Lark
Despite the physical and psychological
assaults many found opportunities to withstand ill-treatment. Some had been
briefed during escape and evasion lectures about what might happen during
interrogation, or had viewed the 1940 training film, Enemy Interrogation of Prisoners. They had been warned that the
Germans would consider them valuable sources of information and would question
them; they were primed to be wary of tricky interrogation techniques. The
airmen had also been alerted to the possibility of stool pigeons. As well as formal briefings, the rumour mill
worked overtime and many ‘heard’ that they might be beaten and tortured to
extract vital military ‘gen’ (information).
Armed with this knowledge and rumour-based
expectation, the airmen took control to mitigate the
worst of the debilitating effects of sensory deprivation. They actively exerted personal power to raise
their morale and maintain self-discipline. Bill
Amos played with a piece of string to amuse himself and to keep himself alert
during solitary confinement. Dick Winn—who spent his 22nd birthday in Dulag
Luft—did physical exercises and composed rhyming poetry in his head. ‘I figured
that I should do the thing that was most difficult and time consuming for me.
Each verse took many hours and sometimes days.’ Winn also indulged in some self-serving
sabotage. Rather than put up with the ‘unbearably hot’ room, he disconnected
one of the heater’s electrical wires
with his ‘dog tag’, now returned to him, and manipulated his fountain
pen barrel to turn the heater on and off.
In physically alleviating the worst effects of the
heat torture by rubbing his handkerchief
on the early morning condensation in his cell, and urinating into his
handkerchief and using the moisture to ‘just wet the lips’, Kenneth Gaulton
also waged a psychological defence against his circumstances. ‘That was the way
I beat the system in my mind’. Alex Arnel had received little briefing about
what might happen in interrogation but he had already been subjected to German
techniques in a local holding cell shortly after he was captured. Drawing on
that experience, he battled disorientation, depression and boredom. He counted
the straws in his palliasse, sang hymns and songs loudly and recited all the
poetry and scripture he could remember. Bruce Lumsden turned to his religious
background as well. ‘I sought comfort and
strength in prayer and in softly singing a hymn—the 23rd Psalm.’
Once the interrogation began, Justin O’Byrne was alert
to German ploys for information. After about seven or eight hours alone in the
cell, ‘a German “leutnant”’ came into
his room and offered him an English cigarette. ‘He gave me a form with a big
Red Cross on the top and asked me to fill it in’. O’Byrne and Bill Amos had
been warned that these forms were bogus, designed to extract military details.
Charles Lark believed very few were taken in and Tom Wood, for one, recognised
immediately that ‘of course it was a fake’. O’Byrne certainly ‘had no intentions
of falling for such a simple ruse’. Accordingly, he only ‘gave them my name
rank and number which is compulsory under International Law’. The ‘leutnant’ asked O’Byrne why he ‘had not
filled in the particulars concerning my squadron, group, duty, etc.’ and ‘said
it was for the International Red Cross in Switzerland and that unless I
completed it my next-of-kin would not be advised of the fact that I was still
alive’. O’Byrne continued to refuse to complete the form so his interrogator
said he would come back the next day ‘to see if I felt in a better mood to fill
in the form’.
Justin O’Byrne. Courtesy of Anne O’Byrne
Each airman had a clear duty to protect the RAF’s
security; he was still considered on ‘active service’ and was obliged to
safeguard service information at all times. Indeed, that ‘responsibility is
greatest after capture’. The training film Enemy
Interrogation of Prisoners reinforced the onus of air force discipline and
continuing service despite their captivity status:
You should remember that, although a prisoner of war,
you are still at British subject and under the orders of the Royal Air Force.
Obedience to these orders and procedure means that, far from being of no
further service to your country, on the contrary, you can continue to be of
great service to your country and comrades.
Dodging questions and refusing to complete forms was not
just a source of pride for O’Byrne. He recognised he was still subject to air
force discipline. And so, ‘I evaded every leading question he made’. It was
also an opportunity to get the upper hand. ‘Whenever there was a lull in the
conversation I enlarged on the advantages of using ‘De boric’, the
boracic-glycerine treatment for blowfly strike on sheep’! After about two hours of
question and evasion, the ‘leutnant’ threatened
O’Byrne that ‘I would never see any of my friends and relations again if I did
not give him the information he wanted’. O’Byrne continued to resist. ‘I told
him that was just too bad, and he stormed out and slammed the door.’
Even through torture, Doug Hutchinson also attempted
to outwit his questioner. When silence didn’t work, ‘I tried to be smarter all the time’. When they asked
something, he would reply, ‘“You know the answer. Why are you asking me?” That
sort of thing. And they thought we had radar on the aircraft, which we didn’t,
and they believed that, so I said, “Well, you know, so why are you asking me
about it?”.’ Cy Borsht also managed to act smarter
during the continuing physical and psychological abuse—‘it was just simply a
matter of repeating what you’ve already told him’—until, at the end of ‘a
harrowing four days’ he was released to the transit camp.
After interrogation, the prisoners were taken to Dulag
Luft’s transit camp to join the other prisoners. ‘What a relief it was to mix
with our own crowd again!’, recalled Charles Lark. Henry ‘Harry’ Train was pleased to
be reunited with his crew members, including one who he thought had been killed
during the attack on their aircraft. Reuniting with old friend was
morale-raising but so too was being able to share their recent experiences and
identifying with those who had overcome adversity. ‘There are some original
characters here and spirits are always high’, Train recorded. ‘Pretty well
every one of these boys have looked death in the face … and their stories are
well worth listening to’.
Henry ‘Harry’ Train. Courtesy of Peter Mayo
The horrors of final combat, the shock of captivity,
and any lingering effects of ill-treatment were put aside by many in Dulag
Luft’s transit camp in the face of like-mindedness, shared experience,
conviviality, ‘wizard’ food provided courtesy of the Red Cross, and an
energetic social life which included sport, films, concerts, and a steady
stream of new arrivals. Within a few weeks, the prisoners were transported to a
permanent facility. Officers travelled ‘by 3rd class’ train, ‘sergeants by
cattle truck’. Regardless of the mode, it was, as far as George Archer and
Ronnie Baines were concerned, ‘bloody awful’.
When I went through
their accounts, I found that some prisoners mentioned they had had no briefing,
others mentioned they had seen a training film about the experiences of a
bomber crew after they’d been taken to Dulag Luft. I let my fingers do the
walking and found Enemy Interrogation of Prisoners on Youtube.
I thought you might be interested to see what the RAF thought would happen.
Reality, for many as you have seen, was quite a bit different.
The film lasts about half an hour. If you don’t
have time to watch it, here is the precis courtesy of the Imperial War Museum:
Film
consists of a fictional episode with actors and spoken dialogue. Brief film
sequence shows a Lockheed Hudson taking off. Film begins with an actor
portraying a senior RAF officer who introduces the characters and sets the
scene. Before the mission aircrews turn out their pockets to remove identifying
articles. A plane is forced to land in enemy territory and the crew taken
prisoner; the film then describes how German intelligence learn of a new
airfield and proposed bombing raid, starting with a simple clue—a bus ticket
which reveals the home station of the prisoners—and subsequently building on
this by the use of a variety of techniques— separation of the crew,
fraternisation, ‘hard/soft’ interrogation and leading questions, a German
posing as an RAF officer, and listening in on ‘idle chatter’ between crew
members. Germans then launch a pre-emptive raid which destroys British aircraft
and postpones planned raid. Conclusion—give only your name, rank and number,
and ‘keep your mouth shut’. http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/1060013719
